Le Port d’Amsterdam de Brel reprend une chanson traditionnelle anglaise du 16e siècle (Greensleeves)

Je voulais quitter Touiteur, X maintenant, mais ...je lis ce jour :

"Vous saviez ça, vous, que le Port d’Amsterdam de Brel reprend une chanson traditionnelle anglaise du 16e siècle (Greensleeves), empruntée plus tard par Beethoven (Irish Song) ? C’est pour ça qu’on aime X" @WeillClaude

Dire que Brel a chanté à 100 m de mon deuxième logement à Nantes et que je ne l'ai su que trop tard. Pour Brassens, plus tard nous somme allés le voir à Paris à Montparnasse.

Quand j'ai fait mon tour d'Europe en auto-stop l'été 1965, je suis allé à Hambourg cité par Brel dans Amsterdam. Plus tard, je visiterai plusieurs fois Amsterdam.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensleeves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXkL31aarhw

"The traditional song Greensleeves, reconstructed from the earliest renaissance lute manuscripts, Molly Netter, soprano. Accompanied by the Voice of the Viol viola da gamba consort. Elisabeth Reed, Farley Pearce and William Skeen, Elizabethan viols, & David Tayler, lute. The Voice of the Viol is a program of Voices of Music, directed by Elisabeth Reed. Elizabethan viols Voices of Music is developing programs for two consorts of viols, one from the Elizabethan period (which you will hear tonight) and an early renaissance consort from around the year 1500 to perform works published by Petrucci, the first music publisher, and his contemporaries. The late renaissance Elizabethan viols are primarily based on the work of John Rose, who was famous by the 1550s for his “vyalls” and other instruments. Although these instruments were from the middle of the century, only the later instruments survive, and it is not known if Rose’s style changed over the years, so these instruments either reflect the practice as early as the 1550s or, more likely, as late as the 1590s, although the changes may have been minor over the years. Notably, the design of the Amati violins from roughly the same time period changed very little. The Rose workshop parallels Elizabeth’s reign as queen, and so these instruments are an excellent choice for this repertory. The English court imported a great many Italian instruments beginning with the reign of Henry VIII, but the Rose instruments were considered preeminent for the viols, even as the lutes and recorders were mainly sourced from Italy and Germany. For the renaissance ideal, the consort was conceived of as a matched set, and all the instruments played tonight were made by one builder, Wesley Brandt, using similar patterns, techniques and timbers based closely on historical models. The close matching gives the ensemble a unique sound and is essential for consort music. Another major difference to the baroque instruments is the strings: wire-wound strings emerged circa 1660 and were unknown to the musicians of the renaissance and early 17th century. Without the “overspun” strings the sound of the instrument and its overtones are markedly different, especially in terms of greater transparency, and this enables each individual part in the early English viols to be heard clearly. Importantly, with wire wound strings, bowed instruments are louder in the bass register, but unwound strings have the opposite, softer sound. In addition, there is no register change as the player crosses strings with the bow: all the strings are the same. Lastly, the early English viols had soundboards that were made of very thin, parallel strips of wood that were heated and bent under tension, so they are similar to a drum: this process of tempering and tensioning the soundboard changes the harmonics of the viol. Entrenched in a multitude of styles from an early age, Canadian-American soprano Molly Netter enlivens complex and beautiful music both old and new. Noted for her “natural warmth” (LA Times) and “clear, beautiful tone” (NY Times), Molly’s voice can be heard on five Grammy nominated albums since 2017. #greensleeves 8K Video: Lloyd Hryciw and Rob Clevenger Post Production: David Tayler and Andrew Levy Special thanks to Margaret Cohen." 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnDpOwgHapM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twH4Lnxo0pQ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtnplRYvLGQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsA6Sa24kIk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzk13OqfFUA

Beethoven ‐ 20 Irish Songs WoO 153, No 4 “Since greybeards inpourm us that youth will decay”

 

Je constate que sur Wikipedia https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterdam_(chanson) Greenleeves est indiqué

Pour la composition de la mélodie d'Amsterdam, Jacques Brel s'est fortement inspiré de Greensleeves, un air traditionnel anglais remontant au XVI^e siècle^10,11.